Friggin’ Giuliani

As Paul Krugman recently noted in his New York Times column (firewalled), Republican presidential candidates are having some difficulty explaining what they will do in the unlikely event they win the presidency. So of course we can only gauge how they may lead as president with their public positions and how they have governed thus far in their careers.

Rudy Giuliani presents a particularly difficult case. Rolling Stone recently posited that he would be “worse than Bush,” but honestly no one really knows. He’s changed many of his positions enormously since his decision to run for president, and some of these could be interpreted as adapting his representation from the very liberal New York City to the relatively moderate United States. It’s possible, I suppose, but to most observers it appears hypocritical.

The one position he’s been fairly consistent on is abortion. While not liking the practice of abortion (who does?) he has defended a woman’s right to choose and even supported Clinton’s veto of the so-called “partial-birth” abortion ban. In 1989 he even said in the NYT, “There must be public funding for abortion for poor women,” and he reiterated his support this year. Later he did support the “partial-birth” ban, basing it this time on supposedly more scientific grounds. He has supported the rights of illegal immigrants, saying, “If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you’re one of the people who we want in this city.” He has opposed the death penalty, excepting extreme cases like the 9/11 hijackers, and he has been an absolutely staunch supporter of gay rights, advocating forcefully and repeatedly for civil union rights but not marriage, but he says he would oppose a federal ban on gay marriage.

This is all well and good, but it doesn’t make him a liberal or even a moderate. It merely means that he’s backing up his position that government should stay out of our personal affairs. It’s only shocking because few act on this supposedly common position. He is still very much a hawkish conservative (some even say neoconservative), and given our history with both Bushes this is particularly troubling.

During Sunday’s Republican debate (yes, there was one) he repeated his belief that government can have it both ways, by lowering taxes and thus increase federal revenue and spending. Seriously. Say what you will about Republicans who slash taxes and spending, at least that’s an ethos. This position is Lafferism even further removed from the real world and with no emphasis on an optimal taxation, simply cut and spend, cut and spend, then cut more and spend more. It’s Bushonomics Redux.

Oh, but there’s more. As Newsweek has said, he has been “one of the most consistent cheerleaders for the president’s handling of the war in Iraq,” and he has made noises toward expanding the war to Iran with his assertion that the nation took part in 9/11. He has been supportive of Bush’s “police-state” tactics such as wiretapping, and he was known for his outrageous crackdowns at the 2004 Republican convention in New York and implementation of new, suspect tools against protesters.

He is in favor of implementing voucher systems and of privatizing “under-performing” schools. He is vehemently opposed to publicly financed health care, maintaining that competition for profit is the best way to keep the nation healthy, and he is a steadfast supporter of torturing “terrorist” suspects and of the USA PATRIOT Act.

That about covers the highlights. Read more on what Giuliani stands for here and here.

Explore posts in the same categories: 2008 Elections, Economics, Education, Health Care, Immigration, Iraq War, Militarism, Neo-fascism, Protest, Republicans, Rudy Giuliani, war on terror?

14 Comments on “Friggin’ Giuliani”

  1. ClapSo Says:

    The biggest change rudy went through was from a successful prosecutor of michael milkin and a bunch of other CORPORATE crooks, to a politician who went after “squeegee men” and other “street criminals. This happens all the time. They go after the real criminals in business until they need the corporate campaign contributions to gain higher office. rudy is just another company man now…

    The scientifically impossible I do right away
    The spiritually miraculous takes a bit longer

  2. Robert Rouse Says:

    Announcing the first annual Blog World Report Awards. Please drop by today and make your nominations in six categories. Thanks!

  3. Brian Says:

    I know this is unrelated, BUT I have to say that I appreciate the big lebowski reference ;-)

  4. Brad Says:

    Oh, that’s totally related.

    Anybody get the title reference, bonus credits worth nothing!

  5. libhomo Says:

    The claim in the media that Giuliani is a moderate points out two general trends.

    1) The GOP is so nutty right-wing that a conservative like Giuliani seems relatively moderate.

    2) By portraying a conservative like him as a moderate, the corporate media works to narrow the range of acceptable political views.

  6. JollyRoger Says:

    Rudy’s gonna get his ass handed to him in Jesusistan.

    There’s some kind of “brown baby” surprise waiting for him there. The only question is who will spring it.

  7. dh Says:

    The title reference is from the SNL skit where Rudy plays an NYC cab driver.

    Well-written article. I would tend to disagree that Giuliani is a fiscal neocon. The major flaw of Bush’s economic policy (in my view–which is to say the view I’ve plagarized from many notable fiscal conservatives) is deficit spending and the idea that a deficit pays for itself. Giuliani was not a deficit spender during his tenure as mayor. In the debate, he simply cited an example from his term when he was able to increase tax revenues for infrastructure by %40 by cutting income tax %25. It’s not an endorsement of deficit-spending, it’s just a statement that you don’t necessarily have to cut taxes to raise money (and in the past it has had the opposite effect).

    Additionally, Giuliani is not well known for the implementation of new and suspect tactics against protesters during the “outrageous crackdowns” during the 2004 RNC. That’s because he was not mayor of NYC during that time (that would have been Michael Bloomberg).

    Say what you want about Giuliani (and you did), as quite possibly the only man who could and did clean up New York City, he is arguably the most successful executive since FDR. If he gets in the general election, it will be hard for me to not vote for him.

  8. Brad Says:

    Well done, dh, on several points. You get the bonus credits worth nothing! Surprisingly I was unable on a quick search to find the video for this skit or I would have included it.

    As for the RNC, mea culpa. I do stick by the latter half of that sentence, though, and that is where my mistake sprang from, as the RNC debacle was a logical extension of the policies that sprang from Giuliani’s iron-fisted rule. To argue that he was so successful and that it was good thing, it to say that the ends inevitably outweigh the means. I do not. Check out this story, Rudy Giuliani: One Good Fascist, One Great Leader. It’s pretty distressing and indicative of the style that Giuliani employed to “get results.” That’s along the same lines (NOT to compare their deeds at all, though) as saying Hitler “got results” in bringing Germany back from World War I. At what cost to society does this thugocracy come?

  9. dh Says:

    I think that there is a good argument against Giuliani hidden in that article and in yours, as well. I disagree that employing a “broken window” policy with respect to enforcing a city’s (or nation’s) laws is an example of facism. I do agree that Giuliani has had a tendency to take things a bit too far, though. However, the fact that he upholds a policy of keeping the government out of people’s personal lives does lend me some comfort.

  10. Brad Says:

    “he upholds a policy of keeping the government out of people’s personal lives”

    I somewhat agree. Overtly he does. Big picture, he’s very laissez-faire. As far as spying and activities against those who don’t toe the party line, he’s quite a different case, and that’s very, very dangerous.

  11. Brad Says:

    And here’s a great quote from Rudy “government out of personal lives” Giuliani:

    “Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.”

  12. libhomo Says:

    dh:

    Giuliani was not the mayor during the Repugnant Neocon Carnival (what many of us living in New York called it at the time). However, the suppression of dissent by Bloomberg was following in the footsteps of Giuliani’s suppression of dissent that existed long before 911.

    It took several court victories before Giuliani stopped denying protest permits to any groups he disagreed with.

    Also, Giuliani certainly does not believe in keeping the government out of peoples’ lives when it comes to government spying on Americans.

  13. Idetrorce Says:

    very interesting, but I don’t agree with you
    Idetrorce


Comment: